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	<title>Comments on: What Kind of Christians Are We?</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://apathyonline.net/archives/212#comment-1158</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 03:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about God as a source of liberty, self-government and freedom, independent of the use of physical force or the threat thereof, independent of our terrestrial self or any surrogate on behalf thereof, and independent of a material or ethical dichotomy between the self from whom we live and the self from whom all may live, independent of time or place, in relationship with God?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about God as a source of liberty, self-government and freedom, independent of the use of physical force or the threat thereof, independent of our terrestrial self or any surrogate on behalf thereof, and independent of a material or ethical dichotomy between the self from whom we live and the self from whom all may live, independent of time or place, in relationship with God?</p>
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		<title>By: antijingoist</title>
		<link>http://apathyonline.net/archives/212#comment-1151</link>
		<dc:creator>antijingoist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see God as the creator of everything, who would like us to love him, and love each other, but will not force us to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see God as the creator of everything, who would like us to love him, and love each other, but will not force us to.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://apathyonline.net/archives/212#comment-1149</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you believe that the State is not a valid means of self-control, source of liberty or governing body, through which two or more people may unite, then why is God a valid means of self-control, source of liberty or governing body, through which two or more people may unite?  Or, do you see God as merely the author of a religion (spiritual values), which has nothing to do with self-determination, self-government or freedom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you believe that the State is not a valid means of self-control, source of liberty or governing body, through which two or more people may unite, then why is God a valid means of self-control, source of liberty or governing body, through which two or more people may unite?  Or, do you see God as merely the author of a religion (spiritual values), which has nothing to do with self-determination, self-government or freedom?</p>
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		<title>By: antijingoist</title>
		<link>http://apathyonline.net/archives/212#comment-1142</link>
		<dc:creator>antijingoist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you believe God created time, then you would understand that he operates outside of it.
Though, I don&#039;t really know what your question is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you believe God created time, then you would understand that he operates outside of it.<br />
Though, I don&#8217;t really know what your question is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://apathyonline.net/archives/212#comment-1121</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 02:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you claim not to be a blind believer in Christian theology, then how can you believe in an external Creator, someone who reigns outside one&#039;s mind, heart or soul, therefore independent thereof?  Does that not mean that you believe in the sovereignty of an authority, which is superior to, outside of and controlling you?  If your answer to this is yes, then does this not contradict the fact that you are a being with volition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you claim not to be a blind believer in Christian theology, then how can you believe in an external Creator, someone who reigns outside one&#8217;s mind, heart or soul, therefore independent thereof?  Does that not mean that you believe in the sovereignty of an authority, which is superior to, outside of and controlling you?  If your answer to this is yes, then does this not contradict the fact that you are a being with volition?</p>
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		<title>By: Abigail</title>
		<link>http://apathyonline.net/archives/212#comment-560</link>
		<dc:creator>Abigail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: antijingoist</title>
		<link>http://apathyonline.net/archives/212#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>antijingoist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 04:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got that from a Chuck Baldwin sermon a while ago... Baldwin failed to mention that the entire story was not about taxes, and that it is about the hypocrisy of the religious leaders, who, according to their position, should not even had the coin in their possession! Perhaps I&#039;ll mention that in another blog post.
The only time Jesus pays, or endorses paying taxes, is when he has Peter fish for the tax money. That was to avoid offending others, because Jesus did not come to the earth over taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got that from a Chuck Baldwin sermon a while ago&#8230; Baldwin failed to mention that the entire story was not about taxes, and that it is about the hypocrisy of the religious leaders, who, according to their position, should not even had the coin in their possession! Perhaps I&#039;ll mention that in another blog post.<br />
The only time Jesus pays, or endorses paying taxes, is when he has Peter fish for the tax money. That was to avoid offending others, because Jesus did not come to the earth over taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: kataqu07</title>
		<link>http://apathyonline.net/archives/212#comment-405</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Cae&#173;sar does not own your con&#173;science, God does.&quot;

This probably made my week. I had never heard the verse about taxes applied in that way, before, and it makes a whole lot of sense. It&#039;s a whole ideology summed up in one sentence. Very insightful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Cae&shy;sar does not own your con&shy;science, God does.&quot;</p>
<p>This probably made my week. I had never heard the verse about taxes applied in that way, before, and it makes a whole lot of sense. It&#039;s a whole ideology summed up in one sentence. Very insightful.</p>
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		<title>By: Chadd Hatfield</title>
		<link>http://apathyonline.net/archives/212#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>Chadd Hatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your theological position is very Paulinean and sound, the problem with modern Christiandom is man, and the humanistic philosophy of religious fallacies that the 1st century Christians dealt with has not changed, thus agreeing with King Solomon when he indicated that there is nothing new under the sun.  We that claim to follow the Way of Christ, and believe that He died for our sins and arose on the third day to defeat death, and He is our Lord and God, must die daily to the flesh and seek the things above.  Though I agree with 80% of the free state systemology within the socio-political free state movement, I cannot deny that our God is a God of Agape not force.  God speed your fellow brother Rev. Chadd N. Hatfield, M.A.C.C. Head Chaplain of the Huntington City Misson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your theological position is very Paulinean and sound, the problem with modern Christiandom is man, and the humanistic philosophy of religious fallacies that the 1st century Christians dealt with has not changed, thus agreeing with King Solomon when he indicated that there is nothing new under the sun.  We that claim to follow the Way of Christ, and believe that He died for our sins and arose on the third day to defeat death, and He is our Lord and God, must die daily to the flesh and seek the things above.  Though I agree with 80% of the free state systemology within the socio-political free state movement, I cannot deny that our God is a God of Agape not force.  God speed your fellow brother Rev. Chadd N. Hatfield, M.A.C.C. Head Chaplain of the Huntington City Misson.</p>
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